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Are my A-levels good for law? For those looking for a specif The old threads could be useful too so you can see others who had the same dilemma. I had a long commute by car each day to secondary school. ), @dazedandconfused11plusI heard about City exploding offers but Iâm not sure if thatâs going to be the case this year with the current circumstances nothing is certain, and Highgate on their website âHighgate does make more offers than there are places available, so as swift a response as possible is advised.â. *@JBX2013*I know that will be another issue as well, but it really depends on the offer and the school, if my daughter is going to be happy there then I think Iâll have to make the sacrifice of driving, but if we have an offer from a shorter distance to us I think that will be ideal. Talk to the schools who can advise. The Current Year 13 Chat Thread (2020-2021) A-level October Exam Discussions 2020 Jan 2021 edexcel grade boundaries 2020 pupil grades were derived from Centre Assessed Grades rather than examinations. An independent education can, and often does, lead to a head start in life for those fortunate enough to experience it. Exploding offers don't mean you have to accept the hour the offer is made. Just a word of caution with the:"with a culture which develops the strongest, most rounded, assertive young woman"An environment of confident, ferociously bright, and assertive teenagers can produce some casualties. Both schools are of course excellent, but academically I do think it is clear SPGS is ahead, so if that’s your key criterion SPGS has the edge. 11 Plus Entry Requirements for the City of London School, Girls If the school thought your daughter was too far away then they would have said something. Tuesday 23 February 2021 (remote 5pm) Deadline for acceptances from all points of the compass, whereas most girls at SHHS lived far more locally and G&LS in between. We are still awaiting publication from a few important prep schools â Thomasâs, Bute House and Hill House to name but a few. I don’t understand, you said your commute was 1hr 10mins in your OP.SPGS require a MAXIMUM travel time of 50 mins. You won't be written off as an annoying parent, just say you love the school and want to know how quickly you need to act should you be so lucky as to be offered a place for your daughter.Given what you say about where you live, I think SHHS or Highgate would be a no brainer. Boarding pupils return by 6pm. CSSG is 20min by Met line, also easy. ** 2020 - 2021 (Provisional) ** Play Term 2020. Channing is the other school which I recall having actually withdrawn offers. Not wearing makeup young means a better complexion later on. The private schools at the bottom of the GCSE league tables. It also means no arguement S in the morning. Thanks, Hi @NewMum112!Is travel a consideration for you: safety, convenience, commuting time? Parents will often pursue a strategy of trying to get their child into a Grammar School and as a fallback trying to get their child into an Independent School through a scholarship or bursary. As an example, we came away with the impression that a girl who wanted to do a lot of sport might prefer G&LS to CLSG. Personal preferences usually determine choice if you have it and them.I can not stress enough though the importance of getting to school easily and fully independently from the get go. Go for the best journey. G&LS just seemed to do more of it and have more teams than CLSG, besides the differences in facilities.Finally, at the open days, it was clear that the schools had substantially different mixes of ethnic and national origins. Is she happy with a commute? Lots of students from NW London, nearly all of them get there by tube. What a great way to put it, JBX2013! Thank you. The only exception, a senior teacher friend suggested, is if there are major problems with maths or English (DD was dyslexic so an issue for us) as these are building block subjects and problems bleed into other subjects. SHHS and G&L and city are also fantastic academically. Is traveling a very important factor to consider? I cannot stress this enough - you can't drive your secondary school aged child to school in London. As you can imagine all schools have learnt from this and there were not exploding offers in 2019 or 2020 - Channing were chasing people up last year two weeks after offers went out to see if they still wanted the places that they hadnât accepted yet. How much would it bother her if her friends were spread over a wide area?I know three of these schools pretty well. And you’re right to think about the commute - as well as the time it will take, are there many changes etc? She couldn’t cope with the stress . I really donât think you need to worry. Vacancies Vacancies; Continued Professional Development Continued Professional Development; Support Us Support Us. I wish my children could walk to school but given that they don't, I'm glad that they have a relatively easy (5 minute walk, 12 overground, 5 minute walk) with loads of other kids. We may decline to pursue an application where in our opinion it may require an unrealistically demanding journey for the girl“, Yes. G&L and Highgate are quite far apart. Geography rules. Offers were sent out on a Friday, and we went there first thing Monday morning.. we were told that 20 something had accepted already. Ask the Food Standards Agency experts your questions about use by dates, Are you pregnant? Yes just to add that aside from not thinking exploding offers is something you will need to worry about this year - as the others have said, just go for the closest/easiest to get to of those that offer you a place. It's not like the other two aren't great schools, they're just not great enough to merit the extra travel. These league tables show the school results of GCSEs and A-levels taken by pupils in 2018. CONTENTS SPRING/SUMMER 2020. It's so rude, given that you're going to paying shedloads. DD goes to a co-ed Grammar that has been quite disappointing. Very few girls from year 7 upwards are dependent on their parents to drive them to and from school each day. In practical terms 40 mins is probably the maximum, and you want a good alternative in case of strikes. I suspect it is counterproductive and prevents children from developing independent study skills of the sort that are needed at University. In general I'm assuming that when you applied to the schools you did so having got a bit of a sense of each of them even if you couldn't visit in person. I wasn't aware of that. Hello All. Why do people keep saying that SPGS require a max commute time? Apparently there were 16 girls in her year alone with serious mental health issues. Co-ed as well, so if you think that might be good. People lost their places at these two schools who got a lot of bad press. The new head at City is amazing and used to teach my daughters English before she arrived at city.They are all good options whichever you get! This is page 1 of 6 (This thread has 138 messages.). Thank you. We realise that travelling to City may be one of the main worries for families applying here. Logistics are very important, both from a day-to-day travel perspective and a social perspective. These were Francis Holland Regents Park and South Hampstead High School who each took an extra class - FHRP had 4 instead of the usual 3 start in September 2018 and SHHS had 5 instead of their usual 4 form entry. However CLSG is located in the City and the school have unrivalled relationships with the City livery companies and City institutions, including banks, law firms, advertising agencies, barristers chambers, Lloyd's insurers, civil service etc and many more. This will be a great opportunity to view all parts of the school site virtually and meet staff and pupils. A long commute could result in the school day becoming very long - is that something that your dd will take in her stride? Low Traffic Neighbourhoods are sprouting up everywhere. When we spoke with the girls at the open days, we came away with the impression that CLSG had the largest effective catchment area, with many girls taking the tube for an hour (or more!) If you have a strong preference for co-ed, then you might have a clear first choice. Strange thing happened to toddler face drooped. I think your answer is there. G&L, CLSG, SHHS, Highgate? Very good insight Needmoresleep and Binterested. by a few places in the last couple of years. In DDs year there was a big and lovely group from City, most of whom had been there from the age of 7, and again felt like a change. Both CLSG and SPGS have super academic outcomes for their pupils in terms of university destinations and exam results - I would query whether whatever difference there is between them is worth imposing a long and tiring commute on your dd. 42. The email further stated that the school preferred for the acceptance form and deposit to be returned in person and that it would be open from 9am to 3pm Monday to Friday during the half-term week to facilitate this.At 12:45 on 13th February (the Tuesday of the half-term week), we received an email from CLSG informing us that our offer was withdrawn. Finally, at the open days, it was clear that the schools had substantially different mixes of ethnic and national origins. I didn’t put DD in for SPGS as I wanted something closer to an ordinary social mix - City isn’t ordinary of course but SPGS is further along the wealth spectrum, shall we say. I would not read too much into A level grades. @user149799568Thatâs exactly my point with exploding offers, it feels like we have to accept the offers as they come, it doesnât sound right, and it really shouldnât be this way. There are many schools across central London & into the Greater London area that will admit dc of all abilities into year 7 if you don't want to pursue the most competitive schools as indicated in your Mumsnet posts. To use this feature subscribe to Mumsnet Premium - get first access to new features see fewer ads, and support Mumsnet. At this level they're all more than fine.I also give a lot of credit to schools that don't do exploding offers so depending on the response you get, that would sway my decision. DD is at City and not tutored. Equally though she knew some that absolutely thrived and emerged ready to take on the world. The date of entrance examination is from Monday 23 to Friday 27 November 2020. 2020 pupil grades were derived from Centre Assessed Grades rather than examinations. Do you want to pay the congestion charge for City? Also, G&LS offers the IB at 6th Form which none of the other schools do.As for non-academic issues, I very much agree that friendship groups are mostly a matter of luck. Tuesday 1 September 2020 : INSET. In DS' year there was a big group of very bright girls from SPGS who seemed to have decided they did not like the school and wanted a change. Are you sure all these schools are doing exploding offers? City of London School for Girls St. Giles' Terrace Barbican London EC2Y 8BB T: 020 7847 5500 E: reception@clsg.org.uk See Map Location gallery Contact Us | Sitemap | High Visibility Version These free 11-Plus papers are ideal for students who are preparing for entry into competitive British independent and grammar schools. To use this feature subscribe to Mumsnet Premium - get first access to new features see fewer ads, and support Mumsnet. 2019 vs 2020 results. If you are in the village, Highgate is much easier I guess both in terms of both car and bus. Seller will take no responsibility. Having local friendships is a nice to have. Is she at a prep school who can advise?Without knowing your daughter no one can really make a recommendation - let alone how you prioritise co-ed v single sex, whether it's all about the academics or whether sport, outside space or music are priorities. @JBX2013I know that will be another issue as well, but it really depends on the offer and the school, if my daughter is going to be happy there then I think Iâll have to make the sacrifice of driving, but if we have an offer from a shorter distance to us I think that will be ideal. Our shortest commute is under an hour but that might not be always the case. When it comes to friendships then itâs basically a matter of luck as to what friendship groups they get into. I wouldn't drive to City, traffic is a nightmare round there in normal times. Open from 7.30-6.30pm. These are all great schools that are very similar in profile apart from Highgate which is co-Ed but very similar academically to the other 3. Also, we live quite far from SPGS (1 hr and 10 min) but closer to the CLSG (40 min) - both by trains. Please provide some advice. Thursday 16th August 2018 was A-Level results day, when tens of thousands of 17-18 year olds across the country found out their A-Level results and if they have met their target grades for university admission. So I think 2018 was a bit of a one off and I donât think it will happen again - good luck and let us know how you get on on offers day. SHHS, FHS, City and Highgate have all gone to waiting list even if only. She would prefer Highgate as itâs co-ed, DH prefers CLSG and Iâm thorn between the two. Any year or any class can have a child who causes problems/bullies. As a result, significant GCSE and A-level grade inflation has been widely noted in private schools. For parents, grandparents and others involved, it is a big decision. If you're in, say, West Hampstead (no idea if this is true) and you drive to City and back twice a day you're looking at 3.5 hours a day.Then, the cost. NEWS 19 20. Warm, friendly and supportive. Btw congrats! Sign up to test new midwifery service Juno, Talk widget showing discussions of the day & trending threads, Subscribe to Mumsnet emails direct to your inbox, spgs.org/about/news/2019-examination-results/. Furthermore, while it wasn't visibly obvious, we certainly had the impression that CLSG was more economically diverse than either SHHS or G&LS, with a larger fraction of girls coming from state primaries as well as a larger fraction of girls on bursaries.It's up to you how much you care about these various differences and, if so, which you prefer; but they do exist, or at least we thought that they did three years ago. Trying to be ready if we find ourselves in the position to have to choose between the two. While SPGS may be wonderful for most of their girls, there are many casualties unfortunately. It's also a very large school and year groups. If CLSG is really some kind of special case (and the nature of the site may mean they are), then perhaps they would reduce the level of ill-will by taking a more imaginative approach. You sound excessively panicky. Thank you all for your thoughts. I appreciate I have no personal knowledge of your situation but I would be loath for my dc to have such a long commute. It's not just your sacrifice is it though- it's your daughter who will ultimately make the sacrifice if she does a long drive, after school activities and manage homework expectations. It probably has the edge academically but I imagine it’s marginal at this level. I think you are seriously underestimating the journey time. Below is a comprehensive list of schools that have published their 11+ results for 2017 already. 2019 vs 2020 results. There are at least three girls in my daughter's year that live over 50 min away. This will be updated as soon as additional results are published. CLSG In the News CLSG In the News; Scholarships Scholarships; Term Dates Term Dates; Image Gallery Image Gallery; Work with Us Work with Us. It is a unique and wonderful school. I would hesitate to send a more fragile child there, from the little I know of it. Both my DC went to Westminster for sixth form. Iâm extremely worried. SHHS was the most white and British and CLSG the least of each. Think also about frequency and about how crowded the train will be. Such movements will affect year on year results. Wednesday 2 September: Assessment results emailed: Friday 8 January 2021 . Seizure? This can make a difference for how easy it is for your DD to meet up with other girls on weekends to form and sustain strong friendships.As for "fit", our considerations included how much the schools engaged with DD's interests, and there were major differences. Your honest opinion is needed? Sunday Times Independent Secondary School of the Year 2020 Explore. My understanding is that in Recent years all of these schools have improved their pastoral care and their offerings when it comes to mental health etc. Fully three weeks before the nominal deadline and one week before the offer holders tour.One family that we knew claimed that they had posted their acceptance form and deposit on Monday, 12th February, and had them returned because their letter arrived too late on Tuesday!So, no, you didn't have to accept the hour the offer was made. Intellectually exceptional, and with a culture which develops the strongest, most rounded, assertive young woman, SPGS is special. Welcome to City of London School. What does your daughter think? The short films below, recorded in 2020 for Virtual Open Events, may provide a useful flavour of life at Alleyn's, and of the admissions process, until our events begin again in September 2021. SPGS insist that the commute is under 1 hour. Also, I am curious if the girls continue to be tutored throughout the school in order to get into the top school? However, there are other relevant considerations. However, I know that something similar could happen this year, so I agree with OP that it's best to be ready to make a decision quickly. North London Forest School Nursery. Some papers are also suitable for students who are sitting the ISEB Pre-Tests. I really think you need to do journeys to each in rush hour (and once we are out of lockdown to get a better idea) to see if one is unrealistic. Recommendation Members are asked to: On a more general note, although not the be all and end all, commuting times are pretty important as your dd will, no doubt, want to be involved with clubs and sports that may take place after the school day as well as having homework to do. So you canât really make a bad decision if itâs between these schools. Wow @Moni5 - your DD has done so well! Our main Saturday Open Day for families looking at 11+ 2021 entry and beyond will take place online on Saturday 26 September and Saturday 3 October 2020, in the morning. The congestion charge zone might well expand.Most importantly, your child won't want you to. I only know one girl at SPGS and she very much has her head screwed on and can cope with the social and academic intensity. Standing only of a chance to sit and learn some French vocabulary?You could try the journey yourself for a few days.... I’m curious about this as SPGS requires pupils to have a commute of not more than 1 hour and parents have to confirm this in the application form. Would you be able to confirm where you heard this from. Seizure? Seller will take no responsibility. SHHS was the most white and British and CLSG the least of each. Sign up to test new midwifery service Juno. E.g if you are in West or South Hampstead, SHHS is a few min walk away which is a godsend. Please continue to check the website for regular updates. Was this several years ago now? I know parents with children at all of them and every one of them is really happy - people talk about finding the right âfitâ for their child. Thursday 21 or Friday 22 January 2021. Open day Saturday 26 September & Saturday 3 October 2020. They are all great but right now you haven't even got an offer from any of them so my advice is wait and see what happens and take it from there. It was exhausting that I went school all day, followed by team practice, and had no free time except for dinner and a bit of time with my grandmother in her side of the house. My DD hasn’t been tutored and I don’t intend to do that just to cope with a high demand school. CLSG subsequently stopped over-offering by such an enormous margin and started using their wait list again.I'm not saying that something similar will happen this year. At City, we try to ensure that the journey to school is stress-free for all involved! dd also sat for grammar and we're expecting a space (based on rankings) but we knew we wanted to go with CLSG. The closing dates for registrations are Monday 9 November 2020 (9 am) The registration fee for the same is £125. They'll feel like an infant. Information on Independent school bursaries awarded at 11 Plus. (One thing to remember here is that City's sixth form is quite small, which may be why some move, but from what DD could see, the ones who left and the ones who stayed had formed close friendships and remained a bonded group.). @afewtoomanychoicesThank you very much for your response, we live in NW area so the maximum journey time by public transport is 45 mins to City or G&L, driving is around 20 mins, SHHS and Highgate are closer to us. Hi Moni5!What a wonderful choice your daughter has earned!The central location, the accessibility from all round London, the location in the City, the financial support and contacts of the Livery Company behind them - all these are attractions of CLSG.But SPGS is, quite simply, unique - in my opinion, simply the strongest school for any girl considered suitable by dint of earning an offer there. However as long as your DD is happy with the school and ready to put in effort to make friends, then those things will subsidide the travelling distance.We have not heard or experienced any difficulty in terms of mental health yet (touch wood) but to know that someone is having trouble keeping up with the fast pace at the school, we believe the pastoral care team will step in and help as they have been doing well so far.Go with your gut feeling, OP and we wish your DD all the best. It's just not a thing.There are lots of reasons. DD was not at SPGS but knew three in her age group who did not last because they were seriously unhappy. CLSG is just more convenient for us, and a bit cheaper which counts.Manchester7, thank you for the links, I see that there is really a small diff between the % of girls achieving those results for both A levels and GCSE. Thus, we felt it would be extremely unfair to produce new 2020 league tables. School authority is perceived as more evenhanded and easier to accept. Wednesday 2 September 2020: INSET. @user149799568Thatâs really scary ð I really hope it doesnât happen again, itâs really an unfair process. @Stokey I wouldnât be driving to City unless itâs absolutely necessary, I take your point itâs a nightmare. Final results emailed: Friday 12 February 2021 (by 3.00pm) Offer holders' afternoon. 46. Headâs Welcome. We would be willing to move to be closer to the school, however, if academically there isn’t much difference between the 2 schools, then we would have no regret in choosing City vs St. Paul’s. There was a thread long time ago on this, but wanted to start a fresh one as some years passed since that one was live. New Boarding pupils arrive between 1-2pm. As has been mentioned, CLSG has made the national press for its exploding offers... Highgate has also employed this ill-thought out policy in the recent past. Talk widget showing discussions of the day & trending threads, Subscribe to Mumsnet emails direct to your inbox. CLSG has a uniform, which is a great savings in the long run. New kitten is very sick. Thank you much. My friend’s DD ended up in the Priory in her GCSE year. E. arlier this week thousands of London parents discovered which secondary school their sons and daughters will have the good (or in some cases, less good) fortune to attend.
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